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i didn't say i wouldn't have any conversations about extending the tax cuts. what i said was we wouldn't extend bush tax cuts for the wealthy and we didn't. you could argue during the campaign i set the criteria for wealthy at 250, and we ended up being at 400. but the fact of the matter is, millionaires, billionaires, are paying significa ining signific taxes just like i said. from the start my concern was making sure that we had a tax code that was fair and that protected the middle class. and my biggest priority was making sure that middle class taxes did not go up. the difference between this year and 2011 is the fact that we've already made $1.2 trillion in cuts. at the time i indicated that there were cuts that we could sensibly make that would not damage our economy, would not impede growth, i said at the time i think we should pair it up with revenue in order to have an overall balanced package. but my own budget reflected cuts in discretionary spending. my own budget reflected the cuts that needed to be made. and we've made those cuts. now, the challe
i didn't say i wouldn't have any conversations about extending the tax cuts. what i said was we wouldn't extend bush tax cuts for the wealthy and we didn't. you could argue during the campaign i set the criteria for wealthy at 250, and we ended up being at 400. but the fact of the matter is, millionaires, billionaires, are paying significa ining signific taxes just like i said. from the start my concern was making sure that we had a tax code that was fair and that protected the middle class....
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the president said he wouldn't raise taxes on everybody. he did raise taxes on everybody. he still has the moral high ground. it's about spending. which is just future taxes. how can that pledge be changed? you're not going to be able to combat the debt ceiling with a static pledge. >> okay. well the good news is, that moving forward we're going to have a four-year struggle against the president's overspending. and we have three days, three battles that we know the day of. march 2nd is when the sequester begins. watch the president try and weasel out of the sequester, that it was his idea, and he agreed to it -- >> doesn't matter whose idea it is. how are you going to get on the offense? see i'm with you. i'm a fiscal conservative. but you're on your back feet. >> no, no. the sequester takes place automatically unless something else happens, saving $1.2 trillion. debt ceiling which comes up around march 14th, fuzzy day but roughly march 14th, there the republicans have said for two years now, because the president's busting the budget with all his spending he's going to ha
the president said he wouldn't raise taxes on everybody. he did raise taxes on everybody. he still has the moral high ground. it's about spending. which is just future taxes. how can that pledge be changed? you're not going to be able to combat the debt ceiling with a static pledge. >> okay. well the good news is, that moving forward we're going to have a four-year struggle against the president's overspending. and we have three days, three battles that we know the day of. march 2nd is...
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the payroll tax holiday was allowed to expire. the fiscal cliff, this isn't a new tax. it's a return of an old tax but it's playing havoc with domestic stocks. so is all of the partisanship that makes our country seem like a mickey mouse place to invest and uncertainty going forward, every single democratic government on earth seems to be better organized and smoother functioning than ours. that uncertainty caused by that lack of confidence and higher payroll taxes might have something to do with the declines we're seeing. telco was a place to hide back in 2012. at&t and verizon saw slow downs. no let up in the subsidies to apple and samsung, we love these companies because they had no europe last year, no china, no mexico. now we wish they had all three and there was business formation. let's focus on the other half of the equation. it's a little more robust, where the money is going. last night china had one more remarkable session. holy cow, courtesy of new attitude. the gold double digit growth is taking up the fxi. follow along, but it is taking up the ancillary ch
the payroll tax holiday was allowed to expire. the fiscal cliff, this isn't a new tax. it's a return of an old tax but it's playing havoc with domestic stocks. so is all of the partisanship that makes our country seem like a mickey mouse place to invest and uncertainty going forward, every single democratic government on earth seems to be better organized and smoother functioning than ours. that uncertainty caused by that lack of confidence and higher payroll taxes might have something to do...
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when we pay our gasoline tax, we spend that money to the federal government. they skim off management fee and then they dole it out all over again to things like a museum dedicated to the packer, a movie about movies about the road for alaska, things like that. airport money, we spend all of this, there's a tax in all of our tickets, and yet all that money goes into a big pile and the vast majority of it does not go to the biggest airports in the country. it goes to the ones that are the most politically connected. you really have to disengage congress and get more private money going directly where they can actually make a profit and you'll get more infrastructure. >> yeah, but donna, i mean, president obama signed the recovery act and spend billions on infrastructure project. did we get our money's worth? what did that money goes toward? >> well, first let me say, we do need some more money. yes, some airports can be built privately, and there's no question we're spending the money in the wrong places, but even if we took all the money going to highways, lik
when we pay our gasoline tax, we spend that money to the federal government. they skim off management fee and then they dole it out all over again to things like a museum dedicated to the packer, a movie about movies about the road for alaska, things like that. airport money, we spend all of this, there's a tax in all of our tickets, and yet all that money goes into a big pile and the vast majority of it does not go to the biggest airports in the country. it goes to the ones that are the most...
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it's a special tax form. have you to file for every single state that you're in where the pipeline might go through. it's a little complicated so some people have been buying exchange-traded funds because there's mlp exchange-traded funds. the point is if you're interested in dividends, these -- these kinds of deals are very, very host investments. two other ones are coming this week. >> not really seeing the kind of pace that we've seen for ipos. haven't seen the business come back. >> norwegian cruise lines goes back. not a massive limited partnership. >> that's a very well known name. >> sure they will be trying it out. >> get me my sunglasses. >> closing countdown coming up. >> and is congress threatening the economy with the looming fight over the debt ceiling? something we're all talking about, and will washington ever get serious about fixing the debt crisis. do not miss, this should be pay-per-view's, maria's exclusive interview with alan simpson coming up on the "closing bell." >> he's always great.
it's a special tax form. have you to file for every single state that you're in where the pipeline might go through. it's a little complicated so some people have been buying exchange-traded funds because there's mlp exchange-traded funds. the point is if you're interested in dividends, these -- these kinds of deals are very, very host investments. two other ones are coming this week. >> not really seeing the kind of pace that we've seen for ipos. haven't seen the business come back....
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whatever that tax rate works. it can cover their expense, buy books, scene their kids to school, put food on the table. it doesn't matter where the tax was a generation ago or three years ago because we assimilate, we're a productive capitalist society that assimilates. it on lie matters where you are. love steve liesman's presentation. it's about government spending. what i find fascinating, what we have here is on one side debt. on the other side we have stimulus but not really. okay. boy the board is even getting excited. but debt and stimulus are the same. it just depends on which side of the check you're on. the 1.2 trillion every year in debt is basically a stimulus. so why is it so shock or why is it that to stop increasing debt that once you do the numbers go down? you know what it's like? you remember those old cars in the old days. you had stick shift. your battery was dead you pushed it to get it going. say you have to pay your buddies 20 bucks to get a push. if after 50 pushes it doesn't start maybe th
whatever that tax rate works. it can cover their expense, buy books, scene their kids to school, put food on the table. it doesn't matter where the tax was a generation ago or three years ago because we assimilate, we're a productive capitalist society that assimilates. it on lie matters where you are. love steve liesman's presentation. it's about government spending. what i find fascinating, what we have here is on one side debt. on the other side we have stimulus but not really. okay. boy the...
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the payroll tax hold day was not extended, so, that pushed the tax and social security up to 6.2% from 4.2%. despite the consumer discretionary shot up. no everyone is convinced the run can last as consumers feel the pinch. it's time for a street fight. karen is bullish on consumer discretionary, b.k. is bearish. so, beeks, lay out the bear case. >> okay, so, i start, karen is undefeated. i'm going to mind by ps and qs here. i think consumer discretionary is overdone here, primarily because when you look at consumer credit and disposable income, they increase one to one. we had an increase in consumer credit, away from the trend. you have an increase in disposable nexincome. it may not be a lot, but that could have a nonlinear effect on the area. when i look back at the valuation of it, xly or the underlying index is trading at the high end of its valuation on a p.e. and price to book ration owe is the word i was looking for. it a tough word. >> yeah. >> r-a-t-i-o. >> yes. >> i but curious about this, because it doesn't sound like a lot, but the tax policy center says that's $18 to $20
the payroll tax hold day was not extended, so, that pushed the tax and social security up to 6.2% from 4.2%. despite the consumer discretionary shot up. no everyone is convinced the run can last as consumers feel the pinch. it's time for a street fight. karen is bullish on consumer discretionary, b.k. is bearish. so, beeks, lay out the bear case. >> okay, so, i start, karen is undefeated. i'm going to mind by ps and qs here. i think consumer discretionary is overdone here, primarily...
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it's really sort of taxed the entire hospital system. we have patients in our emergency room, have crowded a lot of patients in the emergency room. we've used a lot of techniques to accommodate the influx of patients we've seen. >> are you seeing at least at press, are other hospitals, those extraordinary measures that some have taken, are they beginning to pull back a bit? >> we're not pulling back yet. as i said, we've seen a slight decline in the last couple days. but we want to make sure it actually starts falling considerably before we pull back. we've got additional staff on board. we've opened up additional units in order to take care of these patients. we've created new protocols in our emergency room to tri to triage them so make sure they're not mixing with the other patients. those policies will still be in place for the next couple weeks likely. >> in kitchens, and offices around the country, people are still talking about whether to get a vaccination, right? >> yes. >> they can start as early as october. if you haven't gotte
it's really sort of taxed the entire hospital system. we have patients in our emergency room, have crowded a lot of patients in the emergency room. we've used a lot of techniques to accommodate the influx of patients we've seen. >> are you seeing at least at press, are other hospitals, those extraordinary measures that some have taken, are they beginning to pull back a bit? >> we're not pulling back yet. as i said, we've seen a slight decline in the last couple days. but we want to...
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the wealthy see charity and taxes two sides of the same coin. taxes go up, charity must go down. press secretary for george bush summed it up in a recent tweet saying, quote, i and many others will likely donate less in 2013. but a new study from the nonpartisan tech center says charitable giving may actually increase this year by $3.3 billion. tax hikes are actually the main reason why. here's how it works. taxpayers deduct their charity at their marginal tax rate. last year the wealthy could deduct 35 cents for every dollar they gave. the current rate is 39.6%. so they can deduct 39.6 cents for every dollar they give. their cost of giving has, in other words, fallen by 7% for those making $400,000 or more per year. the same is true if you're giving away stock or real estate that's appreciated in value. the higher capital gains rate making giving more economically attractive. the cliff deal does limit certain deductions. but the benefits of these higher tax rates more than makes up that limit on deductions. so net-net, the wealthy get a bigger tax cut this year for giving. it's
the wealthy see charity and taxes two sides of the same coin. taxes go up, charity must go down. press secretary for george bush summed it up in a recent tweet saying, quote, i and many others will likely donate less in 2013. but a new study from the nonpartisan tech center says charitable giving may actually increase this year by $3.3 billion. tax hikes are actually the main reason why. here's how it works. taxpayers deduct their charity at their marginal tax rate. last year the wealthy could...
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sounds like a good thing and perhaps it is in some corners but remember, many states have relied on huge tax revenue from these companies. they, too, face a new reality. before we go, take a look at the day on wall street. the dow jones industrial average closed at the highs of the day. had before down 61 points at the worst. the nasdaq down a fraction and the s&p 500 up a fraction. that will do it tonight. thank you so much for being with me. have a great night. but don't go anywhere, because "fast money" begins right now. >>> live from the nasdaq market site in new york city's times square, i'm melissa lee. apple breaks below $500. a look at why investors are jumping ship. facebook face plant. shares fall after the social media giant unveils its new search feature. big bank earnings. what's riding on numbers from goldman sachs out tomorrow? first, straight to our top story and that's apple's slide. the stock is down 24% over the past three months. should you be a buyer or seller? let's go to the chairs and you were a buyer, keith, today. >> yeah, buy it. at the end of the day, the stock wa
sounds like a good thing and perhaps it is in some corners but remember, many states have relied on huge tax revenue from these companies. they, too, face a new reality. before we go, take a look at the day on wall street. the dow jones industrial average closed at the highs of the day. had before down 61 points at the worst. the nasdaq down a fraction and the s&p 500 up a fraction. that will do it tonight. thank you so much for being with me. have a great night. but don't go anywhere,...
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you need tax reform, in my view, corporate pad taxes are too high in the competitive world we're in. get those issues in front of them and then deal with the spending issues, which primarily are in medicare-medicaid and some of the other domestic -- >> how should people feel when they read this john boehner interview where he said the president said, we don't have a spending problem. how should people feel about that? >> if he said that, there's no way to agree with that. look, we're spending 24 percent of gdp and we're taking in 16%. we've got a spending problem. part of the spending problem is the recession that we've been in. the thing you've got to remember all of this has to be designed to get strong economic growth. the goal is not to cut spending or deal with the deficit. those are vehicles to get to the main goal getting the economy to grow at a faster rate. >> it is possible for someone to look at what he thinks government should provide for its citizens and it is possible to believe that 25% of gdp should be spent on government services. it is possible that he believes that
you need tax reform, in my view, corporate pad taxes are too high in the competitive world we're in. get those issues in front of them and then deal with the spending issues, which primarily are in medicare-medicaid and some of the other domestic -- >> how should people feel when they read this john boehner interview where he said the president said, we don't have a spending problem. how should people feel about that? >> if he said that, there's no way to agree with that. look,...
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citing new tax hikes on the rich as a downside catalyst. >> i think it's absolutely ridiculous. what american express has done in the last two days, cost management. focus on what they are doing there in terms of what the earnings are and expectation that the high-end consumer is going to be affected by what is going on here in terms of fiscal policy. it's misguided. stay with american he cexpress. >> that's talk about cliffs natural. a downgrade. dr. j, make sense of it. the stock is up 2%. >> this one was sold too far down. i can't believe that he actually bothered to downgrade them when the stock was half of whether where it is was. i like the deutsch call. unless we have a lot of trouble with our economy here, judge, which i don't think we're going to have, i think this continues to work and works back into the mid-40s by the end of this quarter. >> talk to me, weiss, about some airlines. they have been doing incredibly well. lately here is ual and lcc. >> they were early in upgrading the airlines and the airlines used to be like drinking beer. you rented it. you didn't own
citing new tax hikes on the rich as a downside catalyst. >> i think it's absolutely ridiculous. what american express has done in the last two days, cost management. focus on what they are doing there in terms of what the earnings are and expectation that the high-end consumer is going to be affected by what is going on here in terms of fiscal policy. it's misguided. stay with american he cexpress. >> that's talk about cliffs natural. a downgrade. dr. j, make sense of it. the stock...
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cut, and the upper income tax hikes. the $250,000 of drag, right? so we just haven't seen that effect yet. >> all right, rebecca, i have two for you. number one is that i'm reading that the euro crisis this year is going to go on the back burner even though nothing's been settled. it just seems like people aren't as concerned about it. so, i guess that explains the euro's move. and then, this news out of japan that kelly's all -- talks about all the time. >> she's teed up on. >> she's very teed up on that. and reading some of the stuff that abe is getting accomplished, it is different. i mean they're going to do -- they're going to -- >> they're going to out-fed the fed. >> exactly. and you know, they haven't had -- do you remember the last time they've had 2% inflation? >> twice in the last two decades. briefly. one on the back of a tax increase. >> just really brief. >> they've flirted with 2% and that's come back -- >> you think they can orchestrate that? >> i'm dubious for now. but if you have a better u.s., a quiet
cut, and the upper income tax hikes. the $250,000 of drag, right? so we just haven't seen that effect yet. >> all right, rebecca, i have two for you. number one is that i'm reading that the euro crisis this year is going to go on the back burner even though nothing's been settled. it just seems like people aren't as concerned about it. so, i guess that explains the euro's move. and then, this news out of japan that kelly's all -- talks about all the time. >> she's teed up on....
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had that concluded at the beginning of the year is, i think people that are bearing the brunt of the tax increases, think on really marginal level are going to see to pull back in spending. and i think tiffany's preannouncement last week, they didn't give guy danidance yet, it's going to be interesting. i'm going to -- i suppose that we're going to see the first half is slightly weak and that could lead to some worries about recession. >> okay. let's move on and talk ebay here. it is moving higher in the aftermarket session after posting earnings. jon fortt joins us now with the latest. jon? >> yeah, melissa. ebay's ceo taking a bit of a victory lap now. let's look at the numbers they did in the quarter. revenue with $3.99 billion. a little bit above expectations. eps, 70 cents above the 69. the guidance came in light, but it looks like wall street is willing to shrug that off, because overall, the numbers are so strong. i'm point out marketplace was up 16% revenue. paypal up 24%. gsi up 10%. and right now, they're taking up mobile and the potential that has for the rest of this year. to
had that concluded at the beginning of the year is, i think people that are bearing the brunt of the tax increases, think on really marginal level are going to see to pull back in spending. and i think tiffany's preannouncement last week, they didn't give guy danidance yet, it's going to be interesting. i'm going to -- i suppose that we're going to see the first half is slightly weak and that could lead to some worries about recession. >> okay. let's move on and talk ebay here. it is...